Holistic Approaches to Indigenous Healing with Amber Silversmith
Jenna Mayne (she/her) (00:00.984)
Hi Amber, thanks so much for being here today.
Amber Silversmith (00:04.034)
Hi Jenna.
Jenna Mayne (she/her) (00:05.604)
So nice to see you again. This is great. Two days in a row actually. Yeah, it’s so nice. I’m really excited to talk with you today and thank you so much for being on the podcast.
Amber Silversmith (00:07.82)
Yes. Absolutely, it’s definitely an honour.
Jenna Mayne (she/her) (00:19.347)
Good, I’m excited to talk. So, I’m wondering if you can just start off today by sharing a little bit about yourself for those listening.
Amber Silversmith (00:27.086)
Sure. So hello everybody. My Cayuga name is Jowethate. It means that she is like on an edge. And it’s a Cayuga name because I’m Cayuga Nation and I am Bear Clan from the Six Nations of the Grand River Territory.
I am the Love Starts With Us counsellor here at Ganohkwasra. Ganohkwasra is a family assault support center that is here in Six Nations and here in Canada. And we definitely try to support our community.
With all different kinds of programming and we’ll kind of be talking a little bit about that today, but me specifically, I support our Missing and Murdered Indigenous people here in Six Nations and surrounding areas. So as long as they have ties to Six Nations, then they qualify for the program if they have had someone go missing in their family or had been murdered.
Jenna Mayne (she/her) (01:53.358)
Thank you. Thank you for sharing that. It was great to learn more about you and hear your introduction. So, thanks so much for that. Yeah, I’m really looking forward to talking more today about the organization you work at, learning a bit more about you and what you do. I was wondering if you could start by elaborating a little bit on what your organization does, how it supports families and children experiencing family violence.
Amber Silversmith (01:54.454)
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
For sure. But first, as you were asking the question, I realized I didn’t even say like my English name. I just said my, I just said my Cayuga name. And sometimes I do forget like, right.
Jenna Mayne (she/her) (02:24.898)
That would be good!
Amber Silversmith (02:46.442)
I got to tell them my English name as well. So, my English name is Amber Silversmith. But to get to your question, Ganohkwasra has a lot of different areas where we support our community. Like for instance, we have like our shelter program. Our shelter program is a co-ed facility. So and a family facility, which is different. A lot of people think it’s just a women’s shelter, but no, we take in even families. There’s children there. There’s even like our staff. Some of the shelters in Canada around the world, they only allow women, they only have women shelters or strictly men shelters, but this one you could see staff being male, female, any gender that on the floor supporting somebody.
And we also have our child and youth team, which covers anywhere from four to 18. We also have our women’s program, and we have our men’s program. We have our PARS program. We have a… anti-human trafficking unit. We have our sexual violence healing center. We have our youth residential facility, which is called Youth Lodge. And then we have our next stage housing program. So there’s lots. When we think about Ganohkwasra, there’s definitely lots of programs. There’s lots of different ways that we support, but, kind of different realms of healing as well.
So just thinking about shelter and the men’s program, the women’s program, child and youth, they all kind of cover family violence. S,o if they are fleeing from a domestic violence situation or intimate partner violence, then they qualify for the program for shelter, but also the counselling services there as well for family violence. And then…
Obviously, human trafficking is definitely for survivors of human trafficking or people that are just trying to keep themselves safe. Maybe they’re still currently in the game. Maybe they’re trying to get out of the game. Maybe they are trying to just keep themselves safe while they’re finding a way. So, we just try to support anyone that comes through our doors and even through the Sexual Violence Healing Center here. We support anyone ages four and up. The youth lodge, are more focused on, they are actually considered a mental health residential facility. So, but they definitely focus on life skills and modality with, it’s called Reality Therapy Choice Theory.
So really focusing on that theory to get the youth to self-evaluate about what it is that drives their choices and how they can choose to create better opportunities for themselves. And definitely still doing one-to-one counselling while they’re in there, programming, that kind of stuff. We also have a Section 23 classroom.
So that’s kind of piggybacking off of a high school nearby to get so kids can go and get credits. Instead of it being the book and classroom vibe, you have more of a supportive vibe, more of like a counsellor that’s there on-site to be able to support the kids if they’re having a rough day.
Little bit more one-to-one support for sure. And then our next step housing program is definitely where people are going after shelter where maybe they want to practice having a violent free home. And, but very much still a program. They still have to access counselling. They still have to do their life skills programming while they’re there. So, we have a lot, we have a lot of
Jenna Mayne (she/her) (07:22.522)
Mmm.
Amber Silversmith (07:23.63)
things that are focused on the betterment of whatever they come to our doors with.
Jenna Mayne (she/her) (07:32.27)
Yeah, you have so much more than I even realize. It’s amazing. Like what an amazing organization. Like I just think of, I knew you’re similar to our organization, Women’s Crisis Services in a way, because we have the shelter program, we have transitional housing, we do have a couple of human trafficking beds at the shelter, but that’s in partnership with our local sexual assault support center. And some of the things that you’re describing, we have similar things in our area, but again, different organizations cover different pieces. So, it’s just so incredible that you cover this huge scope of work. And I can imagine it’s really helpful, all those different departments working together and whatnot. So, it’s just amazing, hearing about all the incredible work that you do there.
Amber Silversmith (08:15.682)
Yeah, it’s definitely, it’s very busy, you know, even though we like to hope and wish that we can work ourselves out of a job, unfortunately, you know, the numbers keep coming and we just keep supporting people as they are looking for the support.
Jenna Mayne (she/her) (08:20.505)
Hmm. Yeah, well, it is wonderful you exist. We say the same thing, that that’s our goal to work ourselves out of a job. And sadly, I think we’ve got a long road ahead of us. But I mean, that’s the goal. So, I can appreciate that. I did have some questions about your shelter program too. So fascinating to me how you support families and men. You’re talking about how lot of shelters are women’s shelters or men’s shelters.
Amber Silversmith (08:44.087)
Yeah.
Jenna Mayne (she/her) (09:00.23)
And that goes for the shelters that we operate. They’re women’s shelters for women and their children experiencing domestic violence. So, we don’t typically have an abusive partner. Well, we don’t at all have an abusive partner on site. We do have men in terms of young men who might be coming with their moms, and we support trans women and trans men, but not just regular old men. So I’m…I’m curious to hear about how it works with your program. Like is it abusive partners or men who have experienced abuse or how does that work?
Amber Silversmith (09:35.502)
So for the shelter, for example, I know that we have definitely seen a trend of single fathers. At least, I’m gonna say probably the last five years, I’ve really noticed single fathers definitely coming through the shelter doors and wanting support to help just with whatever’s happening in their life at that moment, right? But that was another reason why we always, Ganohkwasra has always had a men’s program. And we had a counsellor here by the name of Diane Beaver. She really, really hit it home with our men. And she was definitely one of the driving forces to get that program started, was the lady. She had it all. So we always… When we think of our men, we think of her too, because she was such a support and such a strong force for them to be able to find the voice and the vulnerability and be able to create a safe space, not just for women and children, but for men too. Because when we think of our Haudenosaunee people here in Six Nations, they bring the balance. Yes, we’re a matriarchal, I guess you could say society and people but…
Like we follow the mother, right? But the men, also have their important roles and responsibilities when it comes to our families and when it comes to healing. They are the male side of that for us. So, we strongly encourage our men to also get the same type of support. And that’s what we always wanted was for them to have — a safe place to be able to do their work as well. So, then we can have that balance in our families. Because if we’re thinking a bigger picture of community and what that looks like to have a healthier community, you need the male and the female side of that.
Jenna Mayne (she/her) (11:48.728)
Yeah, that’s amazing. I’m glad you do that programming. Our organization, like it looks a little bit different. We’ve kind of come to the same kind of the same mindset that you have that it needs to be the whole family if your family is going to heal. So for us, we have an Engaging Men program that works with abusive men or men who I should say use abusive behavior who want support with that. So we have male counsellors who work with those men.
You know, there’s no limit on the counselling to that programming and often we’ll have a woman in shelter or a woman in our outreach program and then her husband or partner might be in the other men’s program. So we find that’s working really well, but I find it so interesting how you actually bring everyone together under on one roof in the shelter. Did you find has it always been that way or did that start later? Like I’m wondering if the women have any reaction to the men being around or what that’s like. I’m so curious.
Amber Silversmith (12:48.238)
I think at, I can’t really speak to like the first inception of shelter and how that all came to be, but what I can say just from the things that I have witnessed since I’ve been working here is that it’s kind of talked about every single time someone comes in of, you know, we are a family shelter, you know, there’s men that are in here, there’s children that are in here. Is that going to be an issue? And, you know, definitely a lot of safety planning comes with that. Making sure that, you know, two people that are in the shelter don’t have that conflict within. And if they do, then we have to figure out another alternative method for one of the two, right?
So, I definitely think safety planning is a huge part of that and which I’m very, very thankful since I have started my career here. It’s always been a huge thing. Safety, safety, safety is the number one priority for our clients. So if they are gonna have an issue with having a male staff on or having male in the shelter, well then okay, well then what’s the options there? Can we look at maybe calling one of our, one of the other shelters that are nearby that are just a women’s shelter or maybe they, depending on where they’re calling from too, it can vary, right? Just different opportunities for somebody. But from what I have seen, there’s never really been like… a big escalation of something that would be dangerous.
I think shelter is definitely blessed with lot of lifers as well. So they have a lot of staff that have been there for a very long time, which definitely helps in terms of experience of knowing how to deescalate people and knowing how to just bring them down. But I also think that our cultural belief system definitely plays a huge role into that of
Jenna Mayne (she/her) (14:46.074)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Amber Silversmith (15:10.602)
us always following the mother. So, really incorporating our cultural programming as well, because then that kind of levels out that aggressive energy that could be there sometimes for some people. Definitely while they’re in fear, definitely while they’re going through their own personal healing while they’re in shelter. So, I feel like the traditional programming definitely helps keep people grounded.
And I think that that’s a little bit of a difference for some of the people here.
Jenna Mayne (she/her) (15:43.866)
Well, that’s great to learn about. Yeah, it’s such a unique approach. I love hearing about it. We’re just speaking with someone from Abbey House in Niagara. And yeah, it was great to learn about how they brought in their traditional practices to and how that’s really supported the healing. So, I’m really loving learning more about that. It feels that makes a really big impact for your community. So that’s so cool to hear about. Thank you for sharing. I also want to ask you about your role in the work that you do with the Love Starts With Us program. I know you’re the counsellor of that program. Can you talk a little bit about that program, how it’s grown, evolved, what it’s all about?
Amber Silversmith (16:26.286)
So I would say probably back in about 2015, 2014, our executive director Sandra Mator, she had kind of spoke with, I would say about four family members that she knew of that had had someone murdered in their family, approached them and asked them, how can we support the families? How can we support our missing and murdered families of in any way. So, they had said, well, we need to really get out there in terms of letting people know that we’re here. We really need to bring awareness to the situation that’s unfolding. So, at the time, Sandra Montour and our elected band council chief at the time, Ava Hill, she, they both pooled their funds together and decided that they were going to send these families with Sandy to a Chiefs of Ontario meeting.
And there, I think it was in Sudbury at the time, and there they had really gave the platform for these families to speak about some of the shortcomings that they have seen from the government, not coming from the government, support in terms of counselling in terms of victim support, terms of court support, in terms of having any type of grief, recovery, and like anything for these families. It was very minimal, especially if for some of our families it had been a very long time, years, almost 20 plus years for some of them that they haven’t been able to receive any support because back
In those days, I think it was the, I want to say victims of crime. wasn’t Victim Services back then. was a different name, but even then, the funds weren’t really paid for for them to go and fly to someplace, you know, to attend a parole hearing if they didn’t want that person to be paroled.
Jenna Mayne (she/her) (18:35.491)
Okay.
Amber Silversmith (18:50.796)
So, they have to travel and they have to pay for their hotel. They have to pay for all that stuff on their own. That was back in the day anyways. So that’s what they were saying. The families felt like they deserved more than that. So that’s what at the time Ava and Sandy had really helped them with that platform of finding their voice and how do we create a program. From there, they embraced them.
Jenna Mayne (she/her) (18:50.81)
Mm-hmm.
Amber Silversmith (19:19.168)
Or Embrace Her With Love, rather, program was born. And it was just the pilot project at first and I was asked to come on board for that and I took that job on in 2018, 2019. And as I was meeting with these families and learning so much from them, they kind of created their own little group within that time and because they had all been doing their own grassroots work in terms of raising awareness about their loved one. So, then they kind of just started to come together and they formed their own like peer support group. And then we kind of just supported that process of meeting with them, but also letting them know, hey, we want to start a program for the missing and murdered families, but can you show us the way? Can you teach us about how…
to be and how to hold a family member in compassion and integrity and how do we hold that type of space for them. So, I was very, very lucky that they allowed me to come in and ask them questions and to talk about their loved one, to share their moments of grief with me. So I spent a lot of my time with the families, just really getting to know them, getting to know their story, getting to know their loved one. So from that, we really noticed that there was an increase in our young men being murdered here in Six Nations. So at the time, we had really started to talk about, where does our men and boys fit in here? Because at the time, it was just missing a murdered Indigenous women and girls, right?
There was a lot of focus on, you know, the red dress campaign. There was a lot of focus just on the women and girls. And then finally we had said, well, we got to really take a look at, you know, our own community. And when we look at home, there’s a lot of men that are being murdered. So, we need to take a look at that. And so then they said we were going to change the program name to Embrace Them With Love.
And then from there, we really started to get some headway in community. The group of women had decided, well, let’s just keep our focus at home. And what really fueled that decision is when we had gone out, we traveled to Ottawa, me and the families at the time, there was probably eight of them, that traveled to Ottawa and we went to the release of the inquiry. And there were thousands, thousands of family members there. And when we went, it was really hard. It was really hard for the families because, and I went as a support person for them. As we were there, just allowing them to do what they needed to do for their own healing, creating safe space for them to debrief after little meetings that we had, little things. And when we were at the release, it was hard for them because when we looked and heard at this big book that they were handing Trudeau at the time and saying, hey, like, we’re going to give you this big book of all these calls to action. And we hope, we hope that you’re going to read this book over and over again.
And see all the different types of victimization, all the different types of genocide, all the different types of racism that we’re seeing for our Indigenous people and for our women and girls and 2SLGTBQ+ peoples. So, we were hoping that it was going to be received well.
And then the next, that evening, that very evening, Trudeau was on the news and they had questioned him about the biggest statement in the release was that the inquiry really shed light into the genocide that was happening in, and the femicide that was happening in Canada. And he couldn’t really like acknowledge it and he couldn’t really just say like, yes, we definitely see from this book that there is something we need to do and there is a big issue of that happening. So, we’re going to take all of this and really try and focus on ending that.
Instead, it was just we’re going to take this book and read it over and go from there kind of thing. Because unfortunately, even to this day, I think there’s only maybe five, maybe five of those calls to action that have actually been put in place. But from there, when we debriefed the group and we came back and the families were pretty upset just with how everything had went. it really had them take a look at, well, we can’t look at the government and think that they’re gonna help us. Think that they’re going to, you know, help us with the healing part. Like that’s our responsibility to look at our own community.
So again, thinking, putting their grassroots hats on and saying, well, let’s focus inward on our own community, what we can control. We can’t control everything that’s happening out there, but we can control what’s happening here in our own community. So, let’s focus inward. Let’s focus on what we can do to raise awareness in our own community. So since then, they decided to shift names again. And so now they refer to themselves as the Love Starts With Us group. And the program changed alongside with them, but they are definitely a driving force, for sure. These women are definitely so strong.
When people hear about my job and they’re like, that must be a really hard job. And I’m like, you know what? These women show me so much resiliency, show me so much strength. So when I’m sitting across from them, I feel like the best thing I can do to support my community and my people from the family violence and the intimate partner violence, the best thing I can do is sit across from these family members and hold them in kindness and love and compassion.
Because to me, that’s what I can control, is to just hold that safe space for them. Because look at the big work that they’re doing. To me, that’s what I see. So that’s where, kind of where I get my oomph in this job to keep going and to, and I love my job. I completely love my job to be able to support my community.
Yeah, these families have definitely supported Ganohkwasra and building the program of what it is because then we got to know the ins and outs and the of how to support missing and murdered family member instead of coming from a clinical approach. You know, they’ve really told us like that’s something that you can kind of throw out the window. You know, when if you’re working with a missing and murdered loved one, you don’t do that. You know,
Jenna Mayne (she/her) (27:19.481)
Mm-hmm.
Amber Silversmith (27:24.29)
You have to meet them where they’re at, you have to figure out how to support them culturally, and you have to figure out how to support their spiritual needs as well, their traditional needs. Some of them need ceremony, some of them need, you know, different things that their own community can only do, their home community, depending on, you know, if they’re Haudenosaunee, if they’re Anishinaabe, if they’re Ojibwe, you know, those are all different nations of people, different types of First Nations people. So, I feel like we have to really encourage all the families to go back to their home lands and really do that work there because that’s where they’ll truly get the connectiveness and that’s where they’ll truly get the healing.
Jenna Mayne (she/her) (28:20.802)
Yeah, thank you so much for explaining all this. It’s amazing to hear about your work, just amazing work you’re doing and difficult work too. But I know you focus so much on the healing and I love how that’s kind of, like you said, that’s something we’re not gonna lean on the government to control. That’s something we can control ourselves. And I think in many ways that’s the most important piece, because you gotta focus on what you can control, right? If you can control your own healing, you take control of your own life. And I just love how your cultural practices are tied with the healing. It feels like they’re one in the same. You can’t do one kind of without the other. Could you share even more about that? I know you mentioned sometimes that might involve ceremony. Like what else contributes to a family healing when they have a missing or murdered person in their life? Like how do you kind of go about that?
Amber Silversmith (29:17.806)
I think it’s definitely key because I hear a lot of the family members come to me and say, you know, like they’ve tried to connect with other counsellors and, you know, trauma-informed care can definitely be taught. But once you really get in there with a person and then you learn that, they’re a First Nations person. Okay, well, they have a tribe, they have a nation, they have a clan, they have like an ongohoi name. So for me, like, mine’s Joete, right? Like that’s a piece, all of that is a piece of their identity. So, if they are disconnected from their identity, then it’s gonna be really hard to focus on the other root causes of their trauma.
So when I have a client sitting in front of me and I’m like, okay, like, where do you come from? Like, what is some things that kind of light your fire within you? So then I know where to take them in their file, in their journey, however you wanna, whatever you wanna call it, their healing. And I feel like that’s always something that we have to consider when we’re working with people, just meeting them where they’re at.
And a lot of the times with our missing and murdered families, is bringing them back to their grassroots. And it just seems to really focus on energy, on yes, ceremony, and that will be different depending on the nation or the tribe of that person.
And it’s hard because I can’t share too much of that because those are, that’s really sacred stuff for us, right? Like it’s not something that’s always shared on media platform and not really condoned to share on media platform, but because it is very closed circle, that kind of stuff, just because how our people have really safeguarded that now, those practices, because of other abuses that have happened there as well. know, we have in history have tried to invite people in and then we kind of get, how would you say, it gets used against us or like even, I think it’s only been maybe 50 years that we’ve legally been able to practice our ceremonies again, you know, just thinking about the Indian Act and how that really affected our people.
We had to go underground with our ceremonies. So, it’s a huge thing. So when we think about Indigenous identities or First Nations identities, Ongo Hoi identities, it’s definitely something that has to lead with their healing. Because I feel like that’s where the true healing comes in. Because when you can learn to love yourself, learn to love your identity, learn to love who you truly are underneath all the trauma, then that’s where it really happens.
Jenna Mayne (she/her) (32:42.936)
Yeah, thank you so much for sharing all this. I do recognize it is very sacred to you as well, like you say, so I hope you don’t feel that I’m asking too prying questions or anything. But yeah, I do appreciate you sharing all that you can. It’s really helpful to learn and very interesting to learn about. I really appreciate it.
Amber Silversmith (32:54.922)
No, no, no, no, it’s okay.
Mm hmm. Yeah. And even like, I know another some other practices that we definitely do with within guno kushra is really focusing on energy work. So like a lot of our staff will be trained in Reiki be trained in different energy modalities. EMDR is another modality we use psychodramatic bodywork is another modality we use. RTCT is not so much an energy one but choice theory, right? So lots of focused intention technique. That’s another very energy-based modality. So definitely getting people into their into their body and not so much just in their mind and connecting them with their body. So in doing that, I think we kind of cross barriers from having people just stay in their head.
Jenna Mayne (she/her) (33:54.298)
Mmm. Yeah, and I think that’s so important because if you’re not taking an embodied approach, I don’t know that you can fully heal if you’re not, that’s my own opinion. But yeah, and just for those listening, it was so cool. I got to go visit the organization yesterday with Amber and just to kind of paint the picture a little bit, like something I really noticed, you know, there’s so much art on the walls. It was colorful. And then to see all the rooms, like you could see how you really were engaging your body, wasn’t just working on the mind y’know, there were beds for the reiki and you showed me the other room that had all the padding on the floor. And just explaining what those different pieces were for, it was so interesting to learn about and you could really see how it was like a whole, you know, mind and body healing experience and how it was all one. So I just wanted to add that tidbit in because that was something really cool that I got to see yesterday and I appreciate you taking me on the tour Amber.
Amber Silversmith (35:00.302)
Yeah, and that tour was actually of our sexual violence healing center. So, we just moved in here in June of this year, June of 2025. So that was really, really exciting just to be able to have our own space to call our home. And we also have a harmonic egg here. So if you have not done any research on a harmonic egg, you definitely need to. There’s a few in Ontario, but we are now home to one of them. It definitely works with, I guess you would say universal energy, lights and sound. Little bit of vibration coming from the chair, but not too much. Like if you’ve ever sat next to a subwoofer and you can feel the vibration of the music moving through your body, like at a concert or if you’re a 90s baby like me, you might know that era. definitely feeling the good vibes, right, that come from that.
Jenna Mayne (she/her) (36:04.857)
Mm-hmm. Yep.
Amber Silversmith (36:11.308)
You can experience some stuff like that when you’re in the egg. So, you just sit in the egg and the colors and the music, everything has meaning to it. It all has different reasons why you would use the egg. Like if you want it to focus on anxiety, if you want it to focus on grief, if you want it to focus on autoimmune disease, there’s all different types of protocols that we can utilize to assist somebody in clearing that from their body. So, we’ve had quite tremendous feedback from staff and from clients because we’re gonna also has a policy of, know, we’re not gonna put our clients through anything that we haven’t used ourselves. So, during our training time, you know, you read the manual, but you also got to get in there yourself. So then you can tell your client how safe it is, right?
Jenna Mayne (she/her) (37:01.998)
Mm-Hmm.
Amber Silversmith (37:10.99)
So yeah, it’s definitely, it’s a really cool experience. S,o if you have not tried an egg, I highly recommend you look online and see where the closest harmonic egg is to you and book yourself a session. Yeah.
Jenna Mayne (she/her) (37:27.332)
That is so cool. That’s so cool. Before we go here, Amber, also wanted to ask you something we always ask guests on the podcast is about how we can be better neighbours to those experiencing domestic violence, gender-based violence. And I’m wondering your thoughts on this.
Amber Silversmith (37:48.046)
It’s a really good question. Definitely, I always tell people to think about safety planning. Safety planning can go so far. like even with teachers, even with coaches, looking at safety plans online, just finding little ones that you might be able to use with your, the kids that you might be working with or even for adults, if you’re working with high-risk adults coming in the shelter, anything like that, you can definitely find safety plans online that might be really beneficial.
Even if you’re a parent, doing safety planning with your kids is really, really important. Nowadays, especially with all the social media and all the luring that happens on gaming systems, online, you know, I really think that it’s a huge thing that people need to take seriously is safety planning.
And if that’s one thing you can do, you know, then to educate yourself is definitely another. So if you’re wondering about missing and murdered, know, go online and Google stuff. It’s simple questions, if not, reach out to, you know, local community centers that might be focusing on missing and murdered or if it’s sexual violence you’re worrying about or wondering about, then call. Call and ask some questions. Don’t be afraid to ask the questions to an organization or Google because that’s definitely one thing I did learn.
So we also have a to ask 2SLGBTQIA+ toolkit that Ganohkwasra has definitely built. The person that is running that project up right now, her name is Kylie Mae, and she is amazing. And she has kind of helped build this along with a lot of other people, but it’s an online portal where you’ll be able to learn how to support the 2SLGTBQIA+ community and especially if you’re a frontline worker, y’know, the toolkit is very easy. You know, you just scan the QR code and then you go online and learn how to navigate through it. And it’s pretty simple. It’s a pretty simple online platform, but it’s really good if you’re wondering about pronouns, if you’re wondering about anything, then you can go on there and kind of find your answers.
So, they’ve made it very user friendly, also, so especially for us frontline workers, if we’re wondering how to support someone from that community, then this is a great safe way to do that.
Jenna Mayne (she/her) (40:55.138)
That’s fantastic. Yeah, I’m going to pass it along actually to our team here too, because that’s something we’re always looking to improve on as well. So that’s great to know. Thank you so much for being here today, Amber. I’m so grateful to have the chance to talk to you. I feel I could have talked to you for another hour easily, but we’ll have to do that offline. But thank you so much for being here today.
Amber Silversmith (41:10.158)
Yeah. Thank you, thank you for having me. It really was an honour.
